Fight Club: The book
September 28, 2007 at 3:17 am (Uncategorized)
first of all this book is really hard to read and not think about the movie. and whenever something happens that didn’t happen in the movie i’m trying to picture edward norton doing or saying that. i’m tryin to stop because obviously the book was writtne first…
the first six chapters were pretty dead on with the movie though. its not until later that the scenes and dialogue gets jumbled together. marla seems a little nicer. i think another reason why i have to reference the movie in my mind is that the book is much more choppy and sporatic than the movie- if thats possible. you get more of a reference to why the narrator and marla come to these support groups- to feel alive. another thing that caught my attention was how the narrator says he never gives his real name in support groups. he says that in the movie too, but it was interesting because we never do learn the narrators real name- only Tyler Durden’s.
how they met was really weird. on a nude beach? that is so out of the blue. where was there a reference to a beach anywhere else? i think they’re in miami so i guess it wouldn’t be so odd… but just how he’s creating a hand? and then perfection is only for a moment in the palm of that hand. i’m sure its some kind of metaphor, maybe for the work that he will do later on? are they only hoping for an instant of perfect world and then expect the world to get crapped on again?
there are definately more “father” references in the book. he talks about his father early on 49-50 and on 53 there are all absent father references, about fighting him, hating him, etc. and later on there is more said about the lack of direction in there lives bc there is no father. and then even later comes the “father as a model for God” and “if your father has failed you what do you think about God?” again the reoccuring theme of the absent power figure as a main idea of modernism and postmodernism. another thing, since i’m on “isms” is that i’ve been reading the “romantics” in another class and they are all about searching for truth, beauty and love- and i just wanted to point out that whatever movement Tyler’s getting at couldnt’ be further away from this one. the number one rule in Project Mayhem is “don’t ask questions”. This goes so far against not just romanitics but i think almost every moment i can think of! even the post modernists are all about questioning everything so… where does that leave Tyler?
and chloe. is anyone else as creeped out by the narrators reaction to her death? he says it should be the sweetest moment (35-37) of his life and Marla is ruining it by being in the same room with him. and then he goes into how she probably died and i was really disturbed… why is death such a high for him? i thought he went there to feel more alive, to feel like he was going to live while everyone around him was dying. and then hes overjoyed when someone does. maybe because she proved it to him, that people do die… it doesn’t make much sense to me.
Kim Clune said,
September 29, 2007 at 8:32 pm
As for the idea of “father as a model for God” and the question, “if your father has failed you what do you think about God?” …
Apparently you get a complex about being raised by Momma, have no idea of what makes you a man, and you end up with Bob, your face buried in “his new sweating tits that hang enormous, the way we think of God’s as big.” (6)
Yeah, that’s weird. I feel both dirty and crass making this post. My only comfort comes from the fact that most of the words that comprise it are either quoted or paraphrased from Palahniuk and do not originate with me.
nemo33 said,
October 2, 2007 at 11:23 pm
If your father is a model for God, then what is really meant by this. Does it necessarily mean your father, or is it a confusing play on words because like God, father can be used in its place. Is this book trying to portray using the word father instead of God just so the thought of God does not make you feel as meek or empty? But, your father as a role model for God, is not usually the case anyway, in typical families I feel the mother is supposed to be the role model more-so. But this book does not favor the females of course.
mcallistera910 said,
October 3, 2007 at 1:43 am
Hi,
if you were in the group with capitalism but if you are i posted the work for you to look over and drop me a line if you have anything you want to change or add.
thanks,
Alex Mc Allister
Ryan said,
October 9, 2007 at 4:11 pm
I agree with you that it was hard to read the book and not have images from the movie cross over into it. But I think the having seen the movie first made it a little easier to understand what was going on in the book. To get to your point about perfection and the scene with the narratro and Tyler on the beach, I thought that was meant to show how it is impossible to obtain lasting perfection. The narrator feels that through all his catalogue shopping, he will someday have the perfect wardrobe, the perfect kitchen, the perfect living room set, a perfect life essentially. But Tyler shows the narrator that perfection is fleeting and not possible to have for any longer than a moment.